Racing in Southern Oregon (what now?)

Wow!  You actually got me on one, or at least in your half-assed explanation anyway.  Did you know that most "public" pools are privately owned?  After your comment I kind of figured you didn't.  Public in it's use as a word can be construed in many ways.  In the context you are using it in and the way Austin is using it in, the track in J-ville is "public"  since it was open to Joe Public every weekend or was for a two month stint and also during all legs of the Pro Series. So in the words of your own, you are an ignoramus.  I have not picked a fight with anyone here, but it seems you would like to pick one with me over the internet of all places.  Again I digress golf clap to you sir, you've shown the great might that is the internet and how someone's comments can be construed in your very own "screwed" manner.  I do not believe I am anywhere near what is "wrong with RC in Southern Oregon" But I guess I should take it as an ego boost that you would think so much of me

As per your last comment of J-ville not being easy to get a rythm in 1/10th I'm guessing your from the days of old, since this years Worlds 1/10th track was actually larger than J-ville, but I realize it may be hard for some to grasp that little cars should run longer than 2 minute mains, and jumps no larger than 1 foot.  Yeah for you laymen's that was a stab.  I actually like the track and atmosphere at K-falls and the people and am in the process of building two specific rigs to run there and also rattlesnake this winter.

As a parting note, the land that Austin is looking at will be "leased" to someone, be it Austin or whoever, which means AGAIN it WILL NOT BE PUBLIC in the correct terms Sir Ignoramus.  Good luck with your internet fight picking.

thanks for the support everybody, we'll need it.  looks like a couple weeks till we know for sure, per county.

if everybody who has posted in this thread would show when there is a race day (and i think you will).  we will have a sizable field of trucks .  Matt, Jamie, Bret, Caleb, all race 4wd sc and add in Adam and myself.  that's 6 good racers in valley in one class .  most of which have posted in this thread (granted Bret and Caleb might be rubb'n some fenders ;D)
i know in the stadium class and in the 2wd short course class there are a few good racers here too.  so, no matter what class i think we could have a good turnout.  If i'm able to get the track, i want to bring a very laid back atmosphere, while still having enough structure to operate.  I will be involved in advertising for the track.  Hype is Huge.  as far as being public, yeah sorta.  I don't believe an open gate would be suited best for rc track, too much theft and vandalism.  But if we had a combo lock, and say 20 plus trusted folks have the code and can go out there whenever they want, we did that before w/no problems.

I remember those days. I agree that completely that it can't be just left open since I'm sure that could go south quick.

Austin I've been talking with Adam in Yreka and he said those guys will be up here for races any chance they get. They got a good group down there.

Well i hope we get the track! Im super stooked and i havent done any racing like this before but im willing to give it a go! I know alot of u guys dont know me personality but im hoping to meet u guys soon I have hooked up with chase and adam and joe  probley even ran into a couple of u at sledds and just didnt realize it but im looking forward to getting into racing these rc's! As far as racing rc's all i have is a vxl rustler with a short course truck body on it!Just let me know if u guys need any help and im there!!  Weekends work best for me!!

Come down to sleads today and look at the minis running on the track. Indoor is we're its at in the winter in Oregon. Racing starts at 3pm today.

Austin, you know the yreka guys will be there to race! And we have 9 4wds, 6 2wds, 5 ebuggies and 3 stadium trucks!  Not to mention a sweet 1/18 indoor track for this winter!!!! Haha. Lets get some races goin!

Austin, I'd be down to help too.  I think it would be a good time and I'm willing to put some work in. 

As far as racing goes, I will continue to support Chad and his events because they have been a blast and he has been a great host.  Everyone at Rattlesnake has been great in the 4 trips that I made down there this year.  K-falls was a blast and I plan on making more trips out there next year.  With future trips planned to Chico and Dave's up in Hubbard and with indoor rc at Sleadds, k-falls, Cottage grove rc, and Yreka, our racing options are pretty extensive.  Anyone that is interested should jump on rctech and look at the regional forums, there are events happening all the time. 

RVRC losing the the wc track was basically like losing nothing, there wasn't any racing there and if there was, the folks running it kept it a precious secret.  It was like the Area 51 of rc tracks, seriously.  It was a fenced off field where a track supposedly was.  I'm not so interested in the places I can't race, more so the places that I can race.  I heard tell of a legend that people used to race there but I'm not sure I believe it, I do love a good story though.  Anyways, if anyone is willing to blow the dust off this thing and make this legend a reality then I'm in.

I've stayed away from the arguing in the thread here. It's pointless. It really, really is. Negativity gets us absolutely nowhere. I'm not going to point fingers, but there's some good stuff in here and some absolutely horrible name-calling and insults; most of it with no sense behind it.

This post, though, is what I came for. I'll support you in whatever way I can. Those who know me "in real life" know that I'm not physically capable of much, but I can coordinate, manage and promote.

I appreciate everything you've done to help build the RC scene out there. Yeah, I never showed up. I have my reasons; some of them quite personal. The bottom line (for me) is that variety is nice. I don't want just one, privately-run track. (The semantics of private vs public don't need to be addressed.)

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There's probably a reason for that. Please, with all due respect, you come across (on here) very harsh, very opinionated and generally not nice. I don't like it. It's a personal thing. It doesn't make me want to come hang out with you. Please don't take it the wrong way, but I just don't think I'd like being at the track with you. Sorry.  :-\

I appreciate everything you've done to help build the RC scene out there. Yeah, I never showed up. I have my reasons; some of them quite personal. The bottom line (for me) is that variety is nice. I don't want just one, privately-run track. (The semantics of private vs public don't need to be addressed.)

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not a ONE person from here ever showed.[/quote]
There's probably a reason for that. Please, with all due respect, you come across (on here) very harsh, very opinionated and generally not nice. I don't like it. It's a personal thing. It doesn't make me want to come hang out with you. Please don't take it the wrong way, but I just don't think I'd like being at the track with you. Sorry.  :-\

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Well get off your computer and come meet people including myself then.  As I have said MANY times before it is the INTERNET, things can be taken very VERY wrong all the time.  Most of the guys on here know me pretty well and will vouch many times over that I am not what I appear online, but this again comes down to the fact that anyone can sit behind a keyboard and whine, piss and moan.  I did something about it instead of constantly talking about it.  Again GO meet people and include yourself in the activities posted and then work out an opinion about them instead of saying you simply do not like someone for the way that they come across on a message board, that comment makes you look enclosed and judgmental in my opinion.  I can not change the way I come across in type and that is why I make it abundantly clear that these are my OPINIONS before I post anything here because for some reason small boards seem to have this problem constantly, but yet I still get put into a category that I do not belong.

I get it. I know that you're entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine. It's perfectly fine that they're different.

I just personally dislike threads like this getting derailed and turned into a battle of wits and words. Can we try our hardest to keep things on subject, please? I intended it to be a civil discussion of "where do we go from here" with the county's White City property. It looks like somebody is spear-heading the cause, which I think is nice.

I'm just saying: let's keep it on topic and nobody gets upset, right?

it appears that the pipe that was out at the track, is gone.  Not sure yet, but it's white, and kinda hard to miss from a distance.  anyhow, i've found 4" piping (non-perf black drainage)  for .50/ft locally.  I'm thinking 600 ft  (100ft rolls)  should get it done.  Anybody have lead on better price for pipe? LMK. 

hey nexus, how many ft of pipe for one of your layout  design?
i think the track we built out there a few years back was 120 X 80

Your probably gonna need alot more then 600 ft..... u need 400to just for the outside alone. It adds up quick. Hope to see u sunday austin! Haha

You kind of tiptoed around the point I tried making didn't you?  I asked you to come out and actually meet me then make an educated opinion of who I am, I made my educated opinion on this thread and was blasted by a newb that knew nothing about me which even though was bad on me I sunk to his level and it got out of hand as it always seems to around here :/ .  I agree that I would love to have another place to run any one of my rigs, I have soaked more money into this hobby than some have put into there houses, believe me no one wants more tracks to succeed than me.  I just get tired of hearing about a track that has been in shambles for more than five years, after a while you just become bitter to the idea, now that a common friend has interest I believe it may have a chance to succeed once again.

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it appears that the pipe that was out at the track, is gone.  Not sure yet, but it's white, and kinda hard to miss from a distance.  anyhow, i've found 4" piping (non-perf black drainage)  for .50/ft locally.  I'm thinking 600 ft  (100ft rolls)  should get it done.  Anybody have lead on better price for pipe? LMK. 

hey nexus, how many ft of pipe for one of your layout  design?
i think the track we built out there a few years back was 120 X 80
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Just an FYI Austin we bought over 2000 feet of pipe this year for the track in J-ville and still didn't get to replace every piece out there.  As Adam said it is almost deceiving how much pipe you will need.  I'm sorry the "assbites" in my opinion "stole" alot of the customer funded equipment from there.  Sad to see what happens when people become bitter towards a cause.  Talk to Bartle sometime about what I can bring to the table on the track you have in mind.

I'm really not too sure. I'd have to give it a look and add it up. It'll also depend on the particular design. A track with more "unused" space will require more pipe than a grid design, though. I'll get back to you when I can add it up.

A bit of an unrelated note, though: drainage pipe seems to be the common material, but is there anything else that could be used? Just curious, seems like there's got to be something else that would work and be slightly less expensive. Ideas?

Is there something else that can be used, Yes.  Does it posses better quality's than drain pipe, Yes.  Is it less expensive HEAVENS NO!  The other optional material is PVC for above ground use, it will last longer, it is white so it's easier to see and it's UV resistance is much higher than drainage pipe.  The cost is the most prohibitive thing.

Bummer. Thanks for the input, though! I guess the drainage pipe is pretty standard for a reason.  :-\

I am a plumber for a local plumbing company, our prices may be a bit cheaper on the drainage pipe. Also 3034 sewer pipe is a cheap option for rigid construction. (the green pipe on the start finish straight in kfalls). Schedule 20 pvc is cheap but not much of an option, it will shatter under a persons weight on a cold day.

I will try to get prices per foot.

Eh, our price at Ferguson was 80 cents a foot for the corrugated drainage pipe.