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Discussion in 'Helicopters' started by w00d, Oct 17, 2011.

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    ;D ;D ;D

    Well, at first I thought of cutting a shallow grove to hide the wires in but I'm afraid it wouldn't take much of a bump to break that fin if I did so. I guess I'll just slip some heat shrink over the wires right at the light and make the bend a little tighter. The wiring really doesn't have to go far before it is hidden or at least less conspicuous so unless I/we come up with a better idea, that's how it will be.  ;) 
    I would really like to cut those wires where they enter the fuse and install a micro plug but I've no crimp tool nor plugs that small.  :(
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    Here are the two different lights stuck to the underside of the heli. I think I like the rectangular one best. Having two of either of them side by side look rather out of place. The scale of them look pretty good I think. 

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    And this one taken last evening with the rectangular light temporally attached. The two different types of light fixtures provided about the same light.
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    I usually like square lights better, but on that fuselage I would vote for the round one because it matches the round-ish form of the helicopter.  Just my opinion.
    Whichever you choose, they both look great and the correct scale to me.
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    They both look great, but I'd probably pick the round one to.

    ...Tiger
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    Okay guys, I'll wait for another comment or two before I chose and install one.  ;)
    The only thing the rectangular one has over the round is, where the wires exit, the covering and bulb holder pretty much hide the wire as it passes in to the fuse. The round one would be fine also but would need a small piece of shrink wrap to cover the colored wires as they exit the back of the light.   
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    I vote for the round one...does that count again?  ;)
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    I vote for 2 round ones mounted near the front landing gear. One on each side tucked in close to the legs. :-\
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    Sorry, she only gets one.  ;D

    It's looking like a round one too.  ;)


    Only one vote too John.  :)
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    Need another vote for round, I'm in for round ...  +1
    ... and mounted center is the most accurate, closest to teh scale look !?!
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    Alright, a single round light it is.  :)
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    FUN Stuff, DID another run-up w/ my GAUI ep255

    The other DAY's VID was the result after the Throttle-Curve was SET @ 85% (0.85.85.85.85) which I thought pretty good ... Flew a comfortable hover, which I described has "pretty stable" w/ a flight time of 8min ... If I remembered teh time correctly, I know I wrote it down someplace, meh

              FAST Forward ---> to today's TEST flight

    We SET the Throttle-Curve to a meager 70% (0.70.70.70.70) 15% less than the last flight and again flying was a clean very satisfactory flight. She flew very stable with what seemed like a slower more relaxed and enjoyable fly ... Well I certainly felt more relaxed! Yes a somewhat subjective description but was so stable we could FLY a Key-Chain or Tiger's Cube Camera without issue. Going to {LMAO} invent a NEW term "Cube CAM Stable Platform (CCSP)"

    ... Not impressed yet, does the 11 min+ flighting impress [​IMG] Going to do another VID to prove this round of speriments!

    Then I'm going to try 65% or an even 60% to see what we get for a CCSP {LOL} Going for 15 min

    YES but of course these are under ideal conditions, indoors, simply hovering and the most important factor being NO WIND. So everything should be taken with old-proverbial-GRAIN-of-Salt. Could be worse, could be a cryptic one-liner
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    FUN Stuff w/ my GAUI ep255 Round Three ...

    Just flown a flight with the Throttle Curve set at 60% ... Well she DID FLY but I couldn't LIFT OUT of the Down-Wash, nevertheless the heli flies stable as I was able to hold the bird in place and in one spot even in the Wash, just couldn't LIFT OUT of it  :-\

    Then I increased the T-Curve to 65% and the flight was much better as I was able to increase the altitude and fly out of the Down-Wash with some slow forward flying in for good measure. I would have to say 65% is the absolute minimum this helicopter can fly, hehe better I say hover for the best stability and flight time .. Just NOT practical though!

    So I think it's best I FLY at 70% or 75% outside to take at least a little of WIND into account

    Yes given the flight times I'm getting flying a reduced Throttle Curve is the way to go if I want "GREAT" flight times, w00t!
    Sorry I forgot to time the flights but I can say the flying was longer than my previous record of 11 min

        [shadow=Orange,left]w00d[/shadow]

    EDIT: Whoops, I should have said yesterday ...

    ... the Tails ability to HOLD was also LESS at the lower T-Curve's. At 60% and especially when the LiPo was nearing it's Low-Volt-State the Tail LET LOOSE a few times. This went away at 65% but still we could see the Tail wasn't holding that well, not as well has it could/should have. At 70% and 75% this was a none issue as the Tail was holding well or well enough.

    If and when doing your own experimentation with T-Curves it will become obvious the Tails ability to HOLD also NEEDS to be checked.

    That said there are a number of mechanical (gearing) solutions that will increase the tail abilities. IMO if we wanted to FLY at the lower T-Curves on a permanent basis we could use those "solutions" to increase the given RPM of the Tail thus increasing it's holding power
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    wOOd, there isn't the off chance you've got the pitch or throttle curve tuned down on the HU1? You have thought of that I'm sure but I had to ask. I was looking at your photo of it trying to think of some reason it has no lift. It just makes no sense, and usually most things like this, (at least for me ::)) it's something simple.
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    w00d - What was the highest throttle curve you tried on the Huey?  Up around 90 on my Beam E4 and it can handle some seriously strong wind and really pops.
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    Pitch = 12º best the Scale Head is able to do
    T-Curve = 100% best teh ICE50 is able to do with a fully charged LiPo, obviously

    The average weight for a TRex 450 is around 800g but my TRex was over 900g. With the scale head and UH1 Body the total weight was near 1000g

    At the time I did think of these problems so I did check and verified everything was correct. Not forgetting the servos are in all likelihood just wrong for a scale helicopter, DS95 and DS95i have aluminum case so are just too heavy. Thinking of using my HiTec's w/ their plastic casing to save a bit of weight. Then going to try with the TRex Head simply because the UH1 Scale Head is a MONSTER with respects to how much it weighs. This will TELL ME at least she's capable or NOT able to FLY! Also the TRex Head flies WELL with only 11º of pitch which I don't come close to using all the pitch to lift-off into a hover.

    Yes I still think it has to be a weight issue given there's nothing else or I have tried everything else. Well except Blades w/ a wider Cord, this I've yet to try ...

    Certainly I do appreciate the extra brain power I'm getting w/ this issue and I'm still open to idea's but I have to agree with you Bill, like the expression goes "when all else fails it must be the simplist solution that is remaining" {LOL} or something like that ...
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    I figured you must have already checked the obvious, just had to put it out there.  ;)
    Did you try with a smaller battery for some weight savings? That would probably give you issues with balance but could give you an idea of whether you are on the right track. If your scale fuse is like mine, you probably don't want to be having to remove the mechanics very often.
    The blades below are what I am using on both my helis that provide slightly more lift but are probably heavier than what you are using also. I've bought another set, so these are what I will be trying on my scale heli too.

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    http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=802321
    Or, for a better price these fly just as well.  :)
    http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=877321
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    hehe, that I was missing, the link to a GOOD set of blades to try  8)

    A lighter BATT than the one I used, I don't have ... It's probably is the least weighty BATT available anyway

    Not to brag but CG or being out of CG is not a problem for me as I can fly even with poor balance ... However I do agree any weight saving would help diagnose the problem for sure. Then we can FIX the CG after we find the improvements or the weight savings

    And again I agree, one of the issues I have is all the lighter parts are spread around within different heli's. Not much of a problem I know but is certainly allot of extra work. There's NOT much to be said here except "I JUST gotta GET it done" ... And when ALL is said and done this is probably the REAL issue with this build, yeah
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      ;D

    Oh, I hear ya.  ;)
    My build seems to be dragging along too, mostly because of lack of parts but I could/should be much further along, "I JUST gotta GET it done".

    I did get the landing light installed. I went with the round one. Got all the extra wire mostly under control and out of the way and am working on getting the mechanics in the fuse (temporally) just to my liking. It's all fiddly work and time consuming but that's what it's all about, especially this time of year.
    The motor and esc should be here tomorrow or Saturday. Then I can mount the mechanics to a block of wood about the weight of the fuse and see if it will fly. I think there'll be room inside the fuse on either side of the frame to mount most of the electronics, so that will be a help in keeping the weight forward.
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    {LMAO} I see "procrastination" as one of the charms of building, one of the charms that make it ALL FUN!
    Well it's my way of ensuring I always have something to keep me occupied and out of trouble [​IMG] or at least "THINKING"
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    If you want to try a set of the Mavrikk blades try this coupon code, GRINCH5, it should be worth $5.
    It is supposed to be good through Jan 22.  :)
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