Helicopter PHOTO Gallery and Discussion: Post Yours

, maybe you'll have better luck

Good season for some fishing.....
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Unfortunately when you've been around the heli community as long has this old man, sorry but I've seen this one.

... Meh it's the 'internet' there's always some braggard who's seen it ALL before but it's not been posted here and is certainly a funny clip

So to say others who have not seen it wouldn't find as entertaining as I did the first time I watched it would be incorrect ...

... {LMAO} it's too FUNNY ...

My FIRST attempt making a Wiggly 3D image (WiKi): 3D mini PRÔTOS ...

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[size=1.25em]LMAO, it's alright I didn't LIKE it either[/size] ...

I thought all that was needed was to move the background a few degrees.
To make the 3D look right I also need to swing the helicopter around it's horizontal
axis a few degrees along with it's background. Obviously this I did not do ...

e.g: Apparently THIS is what the 3D effect is supposed to look like, not like the
            crap I made! Meh, the cruel bitter truth of learning is never as sweet

                     
                          [size=0.7em]teh Fine Print: Not my IMAGE[/size]


PS: If the 'wiggling' get's annoying (some have complained) it's a simple GIF file so
      hitting your ESC key will STOP this or any GIF animation

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Now let's see the heli wiggle and the clouds stay stationary.  ;D

Now let's see the heli wiggle and the clouds stay stationary.  ;D
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Actually I did have one do the heli-wiggle {LOL} but I tossed it, anyhow just for my audience --->

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/pwoodyp/mini%20PROTOS/Animation2.gif

Okay, I see why. 
I had one look like that with a new set of cheap blades.  ;D

"Okay, I see why. I had one look like that with a new set of cheap blades  ;D "

LMAO, That's NO JOKE

I had NOT set the blades for Spool-up quite right on my 500 (PRÔTOS) also teh blades may have been a bit tight in the grips.
But when I did spool-up she DID this wicked DANCE [acronym=SCARED teh Crap out so much I thought maybe I needed NEW underwear]scared the sunshine out of me[/acronym] ...
And it looked way worse than the above wiggly-pic ...
Meh, or maybe it just felt worse given the intensity of the moment as I was closer than I really needed to be

LOL "Some dayz the BEAR get YOU"


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They say it's better to compliment a persons work, yes appreciated but often a negative comment can be of more use!

I would challenge the 'compliment' by saying it is better to discover what people don't like (and YES it can HURT da feelings) as this can be a better learning experience or is the more useful of the comments ... More-or-Less ...

So lets TRY something different this time. Instead of asking if you like the image ...
... I would ask, what do you DISLIKE (assuming) and/or what do you see is wrong with my picture 

Thanks for Playing Along
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[size=1em]The NEW addition to my SIGnature series and can be seen there, titled ' Two Heli's and a Baja' ... YET again Post-Edited and re-done just for my SIG 
... Photo shows off my MSHeli PRÔTOS (500), ALIGN TRex 450 and the HPI Racing Baja 5B for size comparison[/size]


[size=1em]For the ORIGINAL image, prior to post-editing CLICK on image[/size]


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[size=1em]An older TRex 450 build

Build is prior to the installation of it's NEW Servos, the MKS DS95 and DS95i Tail Servo
Although created just for FUN teh Canopy (red) colour is fake,[/size][size=1em] it's real colour is Yellow as seen in the [/size][size=1em]original image [/size]

       


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I like the photo.

It looks like you Photoshopped it somehow.  Did you mask the helicopters and car, blur the background (floor) and overlay a duplicate of the helicopters and car?

Re: "Did you mask the helicopters and car, blur the background (floor) and overlay a duplicate of the helicopters and car?"
      "Elementary, my dear Watson" excellent deduction!   Ya nailed that one    LOL 

But after creating the 'Mask' it then needed allot of pixel level touch-ups and in rushing I did a VERY sloppy J.o.B of it. This shows the most on the blade edge and tips of the TRex. However this with more time on the working copy is NOT a BIG deal to FIX, just time consuming I suppose. I also used the same 'masking' technique to change the TRex Canopy colour to RED (Just fur FUN) as shown in the second photo above

LMAO, as for my 'Photo Editing' learning experience this time an idiom of a time back in music school comes to mind
      "Practice DOES NOT make perfect, PERFECT practice makes perfect"

And I'll tell ya it's a JOY JOY having a working (new) mouse
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For reference here is the original, the copy I worked from

• Z-Original Copy of Two Heli's and a Baja

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The 'Blur' Mask as shown in the 'Layers' palette

     


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The Canopy 'Mask' for the TRex photo which I DID just for FUN of it. Original colour was Yellow ...

     


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EDIT: This is a better 'Screen Shot' specifically showing the 'Blur Mask'

For the needed 'Layer' (in this case the 'Copy of Background') to show through the 'Blur Mask' the various areas were removed by hand using the 'Eraser' tool. Although in retrospect removing by 'hand' was probably NOT the best method for creating the 'mask' but given the low tolerances and the nature of the blur it worked well for this image

     



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The toolbox on the right looks a lot like Photoshop's.  In Photoshop you can adjust the resolution of the selection which may help with the edges.

Unfortunately it's NOT Photoshop, my package is Paintshop Pro X4 Ultimate. Regardless X4 does mirror Photoshop with ALL (if NOT more) of the same functionality. However they have (for teh obvious reasons) changed the X4 (vs Paintshops) function names, also they often change the descriptions and sometimes even the controls of similar operations. Thus as you could imagine if trying to translate functionality from one platform to another can make for a confusing translation at best. Now I think 'Resolution' translates to 'Tolerance' in X4 however Hey, sorry Yoda maybe with more information or if you could describe in more detail what 'resolution' is doing for me I might be able to TRY out your TIP ... Better idea: Do me some 'Screen Shots' and show me it working? Sometimes that can help get the point across better

I looked at the name of the adjustment I was referring to and indeed it is also called tolerance in Photoshop.  I have version CS2.  I started to make a sample using 32 and one with a 8 selection but the virtual machine crashed.

Ok NO problem I now see what ya meant, so there's no need for more info as asked for ... were good  That said yup playing around with the  'tolerances' does help and having "been there and dun dat"  it's as good has it's going to get. However and like it always is 'pixel' level adjustments w/ the baggage that also imply is still a necessity and thus still the order of the day

Anyhowz thanks for the TIP as always if NOT for ME then for our audience, eh   
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I looked up this feature a while back while trying to figure out how the pros can lift a model out of a background and even get strands of hair.  There are a bunch of techniques but that one was easiest.  On the other hand if the background is a similar color or hue it just doesn't work and you end up pixel level editing which is exactly what I wanted to avoid.

Well if we were to revisit all the photos I have posted previously and if we talked about the methods I've used and/or trying to extract a given background I'd say I currently have about five good ones I could include into my resume ... To-date this latest, using 'masks' has been far the easier of the methods I've tried but were still learning and still looking. hehe, I like to think as I also think my work shows, I'm getting better the more I do!?!

I have learned though "It's NOT so much the method used to get there as it's the FINAL result that counts most" 
... Meh, yeah MOST don't care HOW we got there!

EDIT: FYI - Also to compliment our 'Tolerances' discussion are a varied number and probably a more robust collection of 'Selection' modifiers available to us. Which I KNOW are also mirrored within Photoshop but as previously stated the only differences is in their 'Naming convention' ... Look at screen shot you can see the 'modifiers' available to X4 users. Each have their place and use which as always is very dependent on the type of selection or what we are trying to select. Being a larger than life kind of subject {LMAO} best we Google for more 'Tutorials' and information, more the better


e.g: Corel PaintShop Pro X4 > Selections > Modify >

         


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Good question.  I will load up Photoshop again tonight or tomorrow and post what I find.  Judging from the options you show in your latest photo there looks to be some intriguing options.

I know for certain teh 'Selection modifiers' are there in Photoshop ... Certain because it was a Photoshop Tutorial that talked about them first, so naturally I went looking and found them in my application I tried again to find 'that' tutorial but came up short, it's really too bad to as it was good reading 

Yup intriguing is a good word, do LOAD-Up your Photoshop and give em a try ...
... For what we've been talking about the 'Shape Based Anti-Alias' is most useful along with 'Recover Anti-Alias'

But really as to which 'selection' option or tool to use it's all too dependent on what were trying to surround ... Experimentation is the best recommendation as there is no One-Button-Magic-FIX. Although in a typical fashion only teh Marketing Riff-Raff type could make, make it LOOK like there was in X4 a One-Button-FIX with their 'Background Eraser' tool. But experience shows us even there we still had situations which proved problematic!

Meh, only SKILL'n Hard Work will get it done! Also resign yourself to the fact some area's are so impossible regardless of the tool chosen so like the Pro's do it's best to avoid those situations entirely or be forever lost down in 'Pixel' editing Hell-of-Hells {LMAO} Having done a good many of these background removals that much I have learned, along with a fair number of TIPS & Tricks to help get me around such challenges, hehe

Try this TUT --->
... creates a 'Black' mask which by far the easiest method when fine detail is involved
... details like wisps of hair, trees, foliage and like shown within this tutorial fireworks

• Removing the Background

I've been looking for a VERY long TIME for a GOOD example of this method
and I'm VERY happy and very EXCITED to report, THIS IS NOT teh ONE - LMAO
...  K I'm still looking so this will have to DO in the meantime



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