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In your opinion which of the following two pictures look the best to you?

  1. A

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  2. B

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  1. w00d

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    There are NO right or wrong answers, just opinions ... A or B ...
    Need to know what the consensus thinks or in a word, see's

    POLL is setup so if one chooses one can change their vote  ;)
    and for the curious I will post the reason why I'm asking after I get some votes

    Thanks ALL

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    A                                                                                                    B

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    That's easy!  I really like "C", but if I can't have that one, I'll take "A".  :)

    Tiger
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    I think A. The colors seem to pop more and appeal to my eye faster than the other. B does seem to more more natural looking though with less artificial lighting seen
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    to me it's all about contrast=what it's paired up with...
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    Another vote for A.  :)
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    I'm going with B.  A Looks to me like there are three brightness levels in the background on the left, center and right sides of the red handle.
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    hehe, Thanks Guys ... 

    Outside of simple cropping and resizing both pictures came out of the camera as seen and all my monitors have been calibrated (using Spyder3), didn't do any "photo editing" before posting the pictures

    The camera settings that have changed from full AUTO is the Colour Space and Picture Control we're set to Vivid equally for each photo, which as it's name imply makes the colour a little more vivid. IMO and I'm reasonably sure anyone would agree the difference can clearly be seen and one would be left with a choice !?! {rhetorical, it's what the POLL is asking} !?! 

    For my purposes here we are talking about Colour Space! So  picture [size=1.1em]"A"[/size] is using [size=1.1em]sRGB[/size] and  [size=1.1em]"B"[/size] is using  [size=1.1em]Adobe RGB[/size]

            [​IMG]

    After reading I found the Adobe RGB supports teh wider Colour Gamut so one might assume it's better than sRGB. In theory it should be better but apparently not in practice as most people still prefer sRGB for the very reasons that highlandcrawler state, it POP's. For most the RED and Violets simply look better. They DO to my eyes also but I don't get to vote as the POLL is not about waht I see

    Notice if one did ZOOM in very close more "noise" can be seen in the sRGB (A) photograph. Technically the Abode RGB Gamut is better with respect to digital noise but again in practice this is hardly noticeable, I had to go looking for it. Or at least this is the way it comes out of my camera?

    Also it's important to NOTE when talking about choosing a Color Space for printed material then {LOL} that's different POLL ... Probably should be the only motivator when choosing to change the Colour Space as sRGB is the default value for most applications anyway. Or ask the question "is this picture for the Web or is to be Printed"

    I had said "for the curious I will post the reason why I'm asking", this is contained within sRGB vs. Adobe RGB ...
    ... Related reading can be found at Color Management & Printing

    So what I'm I really up to? The short answer it's about finding the "BEST" setting(s) for my camera and thus my audience [​IMG]

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    sRGB                                                                                                                                Adobe RGB

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    If the Red and Violet is removed out of the equation is it harder to choose ??

    EDIT: For side by side comparison you may need to widen your browser ;) FYI:
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    Yes it is, I see very little difference in those two other than the colors appear to be just slightly darker with the sRGB.
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    Back with the RED there is that obvious difference ??

    sRGB                                                                                                                                      Adobe RGB

    [​IMG]  [​IMG]

    Widen your browser for side by side comparisons of the pictures ;)
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    Hmm, where I'm setting the red stands out a little more in the sRGB, particularly the wiring and electrical plug. It looks a though the Adobe shows reflections slightly more.
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    I voted B as, artistically, it seemed a little more "accurate". Then later reading the post and noticing the only difference being color space, it makes perfect sense. The general consensus with digital photography is always use Adobe RGB 1998 as it has the widest gamut and truest representation.

    I'm a bit of an amateur photographer so it's nice to see this sorta "techy" stuff on here. I've got a Picasa album with some of my work in it if anybody would like to poke around in there. Feel free to comment/give criticism. I need it. :)

    Nexus' Picasa Web Album
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    Good looking photo's Nexus

    How is Picasa [​IMG] What are their limitations if any with respect to what we upload? Do they limit the picture size and/or file size?


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    More Reading - Adobe Magazine discussion of the Adobe RGB (pdf)
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    Thanks. I'm not sure about specific file size, but you're allowed a maximum of 1GB without upgrading. Oversized photos are resized to less than 200kb, I'm not sure about pixel dimension and/or resolution, but they're good enough to just "show off". I just use Picasa because it's owned by Google and syncs with all my other Google services and my Android(s). That way I can show off any of my photos with any Android device I have with me as well as hotlink on forums and whatnot. Also, I'm one of those weird people who actually use Google Plus, so all my photos are automatically imported there, too.
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    +1 for Picasa.
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    ... For our photographic friends and any who might be interested

    To continue the discussion ...

    As you know I was interested in knowing more about Colour Space and Colour Space Management. This led me to the following ... which I found very informative and a very good read on the subject
    Page 'TWO' is VERY interesting as it demos what can happen or what it looks like when a certain browser (which is most of them if NOT all of them) does NOT manage the colour of our photo's as we intended! Turns out it's not only browsers but very few applications are not colour aware and the ones that claim they are have chosen by their creators to choose wrong

    Last page, page 'SEVEN' discuses some recommendations when creating our own photo's that will eventually be posted to the WEB

    I hope you found the read as informative as I did, thanks
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    I found above tends to agree, they suggest we should be shooting in aRGB amongst other suggestions! It's as you say the 'widest Gamut' and as aRGB supports the widest colour range. Yes it has the most information leaving us w/ more 'options' for either printing and/or for posting to the WEB

    That said I think I've come full circle, as my question revolved around what Colour Space I should shoot

    So I think it's a given with everyone's HELP we have answered my question, which also proves my current SIG wrong [​IMG] {LMAO}
    ... Thanks again Gentlemen it's been an interesting ride


    Quote: http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page3

              "It's a sad state of affairs. I often peek at the metadata of other people's online photos (with my Online Image-Data Viewer), and it seems that a lot of people with pro and semi-pro cameras set them to save in different color spaces, such as AdobeRGB, and present them on the web that way (and without even an embedded profile). The problem is not that they use a different color space to begin with, but that they use something other than sRGB for the versions they present online; they're ensuring that pretty much everyone will see the wrong colors"


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