VIDEO: Comparison - GoPro HD Hero vs Replay XD 1080

This video has a nice comparison between the GoPro HD Hero and the Replay XD 1080.

John - Don't know where you got that, but I'm really glad you did.  That's more lens distortion than I've seen in a Replay video before, but it's still not quite as bad as the GoPro.  I like the wide angle these things have, but I wish it was a little less for the sake of distortion.

I'm on my third email to the Replay guys trying to find out how you get NTSC out of it.  Can't seem to get a straight answer for some reason.  It's to much money to spend if it can't be used for FPV.  It's frustrating!

I think the Replay looked a bit better....

I agree.  I'm ready to buy one.  Now if I could just get those yo-yo's to tell me how to get NTSC out of it.  Their site says "optional", but there is nothing that says how you get there.  Maybe I should just call them.  I thought it was a simple question, but they can't seem to answer it.

...Tiger

They also say you can transmit HD via WIFI, but I could not find how to do that..........

I was reading the technical specifications page and it reads to me that PAL is optional.

http://replayxd.com/cameras/replay-xd1080-tech-specs/

On the other hand it may simply imply that you have NTSC and PAL versions which would probably be determined on the region where you buy it.  This is the common method for video devices.  If you walk into a WalMart here in the USA and grab a television it is going to be a NTSC version unless otherwise specified.

Did you notice in the specifications that there is a "Timecode Out"?  I wonder if they are talking about SMPTE.  That would be a pretty cool feature if you have multiple cameras and a video editor that supported it.

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They also say you can transmit HD via WIFI, but I could not find how to do that..........
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I did not see any reference to Wi-Fi on the technical specifications page as a built-in feature.  I think that they are implying that you can hook it up to a USB Wi-Fi dongle.  This would make sense as you can choose the Wi-Fi flavor that you want or even USB connect to a other transmitter type like a 900 mHz for example since the camera can stream it's output live.

Hi Tiger ...

Don't know if this is going to help or if you haven't seen their documentation but this is all I was able to find regarding LIVE Video

Apparently I only see support for HDMI Output, nothing is said about PAL/NTSC ...
So I would agree w/ Yoda, could be it's implied depending on where it is sold ...

Maybe were looking for firmware update !?!

Following Screenshots are for the Replay XD 1080 Camera
    / ... /support/ downloads/ User Guide (PDF)

        HDMI Live View

                 

        HDMI Playback

                 

Sreenshots are a product of too much time and a fine brew of morning JAVA, hope it helps out

        [shadow=Orange,left]w00d[/shadow]

EDIT: hehe - here we go, the Firmware Update. Quote: Live HDMI TV Output select NTSC or PAL

        http://replayxd.com/support/download/replay-xd1080-firmware-combo-update/

I did not see any reference to Wi-Fi on the technical specifications page as a built-in feature.  I think that they are implying that you can hook it up to a USB Wi-Fi dongle.  This would make sense as you can choose the Wi-Fi flavor that you want or even USB connect to a other transmitter type like a 900 mHz for example since the camera can stream it's output live.
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What I saw was the live HDMI output, then feeding the HDMI stream to a WIFI transmitter and then receive it on the other end. But it would take a special setup to do this I think.

Pelagic Pilot, you're right.  The technical specifications page says live video out on the HDMI 1.3a output port.  Timecode and charging/sync are on the USB port.  I wonder if these are simultaneous?  I presume they are.

It looks like you'll need a box at both ends so this may not be practical for FPV use.

So I just tried calling these guys to get clarification.  After being on hold forever, a recording came on and said I should leave a message.  Nice!  We'll see if they get back to me.  Somehow, I doubt it.  This may be the end of the road for me.

...Tiger

Wow!  Replay actually called me back.  I'm shocked!

So here is the bad news.  The camera is HDMI only and their is no composite video output.  The references to NTSC and PAL only refer to the frame rate on the HDMI output.  What a bummer!

BTW - There are HDMI to composite adapters out there, but they are huge in terms of size, weight, and price.

...Tiger

Looks like everyone is using this one:

http://www.wii-chip.co.uk/products/Lenkeng-LKV381-HDMI-to-Composite-%7B47%7D-S%252dVideo-Converter.html

No delay and not too expensive, but kinda big and heavy.................

The thing is pretty big.  Looks like it's in an extrusion (heavy) which you could ditch.  Still a clunky solution.  Would probably be much better to stick with a CCD camera.  The replay would still be nice for applications where you only wanted to write to the SD card.  Here is a place that has them for just under $60 delivered:

http://sewelldirect.com/HDMI-to-Composite-S-video-converter.asp

...Tiger

Do you need any of this anyway?  The camera records to a memory card.

I had actually wrote the Replay XD 1080 and AV out maybe not supported because I simply didn't see the output on the hardware but deleted when my thoughts started to stray then thought there maybe a firmware solution. Not that it matted much as it's always best to get the manufactures answers ... {LOL} Something to said about going w/ your first instincts though, ironic is the word I'm looking for ...

For what I want to do you DID "hit the nail right on the head" suggesting not using the transmitters and only writing to the memory card. Personally I'm not really interested in FPV Flight as I want to do (still) AP. As for "video" although there are some very capable hardware available for the novice which makes the adventure educational if not entertaining. It's just NOT really my thing as I just DON"T HAVE the "Spielberg" skills to make them entertaining thus worthy of posting

Curiosity: I'm assuming you need the AV output because your transmitter(s) ONLY have AV (RCA) inputs, would I be right w/ this assumption?

I actually have for remote work (actually makes framing easier for peeps such as myself w/ disabilities) a 2.5g transmitter w/ a pretty good 4" (VGA) screen for my NIKON but I'm not about to be flying my BEST camera anytime soon, freaking lens cost $700 alone. I'll be flying my lessor SONY Point'n Shoot as it's substantially lighter offering w/ it's Carl Zeiss Lens still offers reasonable quality for what I want to do. Although I could modify my NIKON's Transmitter as it simply converts the camera's HDMI output into AV out so it would just a matter of sourcing the connections needed

My real ISSUE is the general POOR quality of these Micro (Pin-Hole) camera's including the lesser SPORT Cams, their poor LEN's and for that matter the poor quality of a transmitted signal. IMO yes FPV setups are great for Remote-Flying but NOT that great for AP work and the quality still photography would demand or would imply. Thus the reason why I'm looking to build LARGE (and stable) as I'll be flying a relatively large camera which leads me to the larger QUADS and the simplicity of writing to the Memory Card, forgoing any transmitted solution. I believe this is also why you find the PRO's need the larger airframes as the cameras needed to do PRO work are also very large and demanding ...

I suppose a transmitted micro-cam would be useful for framing my shots, could use them like a Spotting Scope on an Astronomical Telescope ... Guess we could/should leave that option OPEN

Now having said it's threads like this that have helped me make my choices so thanks is in order, thanks

    [shadow=Orange,left]w00d[/shadow]

Why would you use a 1080 camera for the FPV view?  It's too much bandwidth heavy for that.  I thinki the quality of this camera would be for the secondary "quality" recording and another, lower quality, camera for the FPV view.  This is how most FPV systems are setup.

Think of FPV as flying through a small bathroom window, now move to the big picture window in the front room and then try flying your bird ...

... Now even better would be those windows that jut out from the house offering a view up and down the street. Now add a window to look up and another to look down then compare the flight experience, well maybe NOT down per say as we'd be looking at DIRT {LOL} Now think about the quality of the view through the windows as opposed to being out in the world and you will soon see the better the resolution the closer to the real world view we are trying to represent though our monitors. There's a reason why the military and their work with UAV's require the largest screens w/ the highest resolution possible to recreate the world view through the use of monitors thus communicate the most information about their theater of operations. THIS requires allot of Bandwidth w/ the best picture possible! In the Rc World though I think they want also the best possible photographic experience along with their FPV at the lowest costs practical ... I think they are looking to combine the two disciplines into one smart little package that maybe offers the best of both ... Nevertheless the closer to REAL the virtual world the closer to REAL the experience within it !?!

... or maybe this is "JuSt why I" or "My Other Shoe" but certainly "ONLY My 2¢"

    [shadow=Orange,left]w00d[/shadow]

John - Did you buy a Replay XD camera?  If you did, can I see it sometime?

Is that 2 Canadian pennies or 2 American pennies? lol Sorry w00d it just popped into my mind! I agree with you though. Yes, it takes up more bandwidth, but for a very good reason - the picture, and thus the experience, is simply better
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LOL, what's the diff ... Not much these days since China stated doing ALL labour

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