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Throttle/Braking System SERVO Recommendation for the Baja 5B ss ?

Discussion in 'Off Road' started by w00d, Dec 8, 2011.

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    Hi I'm a 4-wheeled NOOB and as such I have whats probably a noobish question and I'm an alcoholic! {LOL} First off I'm NOT really into OFF-Road Vehicles (more into or would like be into "road" thus speed and even more speed ...) and I'm only posting my question here because it would seem to get the most POSTS thus the MOST views. Either way I'm sure it's you GUYS that would know this machine best, if NOT then WHO eh!

    That being my somewhat newish Baja 5B ss is technically (I'm sure y'all know) an "OFF-Road" Buggy that's going to be converted to a ROAD or even a DRAG racer

    Long'n'short  [​IMG] I need a SERVO recommendation for my Throttle/Braking system? I know I don't need much "torque" for a servo that controls the Throttle but I DO NEED it for my braking and it's the MAX possible braking I'm looking to get. As I previously said I will be converting this machine for speed thus need a SERVO recommendation that will give me the best braking possible which WILL also obviously FIT into my Baja. NOW if I could have both Torque and Speed that would be sweet but a servo with plenty Torque would have to be first?

    ... Thanks in Advance
            [shadow=Orange,left]w00d[/shadow]

    PS: More choices or options w/ varing prices the better and hopefully NOT to sound too condescending teh BEST answers come w/ LINKS ...
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    Well when it comes to our fifth scale rigs we DO NOT SCIMP on radio equipment.  These things can injure someone badly and cheap radio equipment is to blame most of the time they do.  I would recommend either an Ace 1015 or if your ok with a slower servo than a Hitec 5755 works well and is less expensive.  You should keep it at least 200+oz of torque for proper braking on a Baja since they have close to no brakes. Here's some links.

    The ace
    http://www.servoshop.co.uk/index.php?pid=ACEDS1015&area=Servo

    the Hitec
    http://www.infinity-hobby-us.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=28&products_id=5655&osCsid=91918b8e9e338686a5590a21c37cddc6
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    Looks to me like the Hitec's are a good choice

    Although I don't find the Ace 1015 too expensive either as I'm use to buying the BEST
    for my Heli's for performance and safety reasons anyway. Thus the reason why I'm looking to
    the BEST for my Baja's breaks, it's in my nature. Nevertheless given both choices are VERY
    good it has only to come down to availability as to which will WIN my heart'n mind

    While speaking of POOR braking on the Baja what do you think about those Front DISK
    Breaks KITS
    being offered by the third parties? To me they look good but expensive if NOT
    very expensive. And when it's MY money "function" has to come before "Form" ...

    Again thanks for ALL teh help
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    Well the front brake kits "work"  as you can see I quoted work.  The reason I say this is because the Baja is very light in the front and those brake kits were originally designed for MCD's and FG 1/5 scales which have larger tires in front and more weight.  If you were converting it to a truck then I might see a use for them, otherwise I would go with a decent non fade rear brake kit from the likes of turtle racing as I have on mine.
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    Thanks and If you wouldn't mind do you have a recommendation or LINK for a good "non fade rear brake kit" [​IMG]
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    Here you go, TGN makes some good stuff for the Baja

    http://www.rcsuperstore.com/TGN_Rear_Brake_Upgrade_Kit_HPI_Baja_5B_p/rcs8705.htm
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    Here is the Turtle Racing website:

    http://www.turtleracingproducts.com/
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    Problem is they no longer produce there Baja HD braking system so I didn't suggest them.
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    I know of Turtle Racing (they do some good stuff) and will be using them to get away from the plastic Clutch Housing and plastic Main Drive Gear. Come highly recommended by what I found in my previous researching ... But this is ALL for another day and mostly dependent on the CASH availability which I'm sure y'all understand. Anywaz this is the solution I'm going to with at some future date, yup some things I'm sure about --->This project is more about baby-steps and what I can afford at the time, mostly about what I can afford ... It's the braking system I'm working on and I'll work on improving what I have for now then if warranted (but certainly after some testing) I'll start to look to the After-Market to improve the braking if it's needed. I see this as starting now, so a new servo for my throttle/brakes but only because it fundamental to the operation and the liFe of my One'n'only DEMON Car, teh Devilishly BLACK Baja 5B from Hell {ROTF-LMAO} Now HOW CORNY wus that  8)

    But to never-say-never as I'm tossing out the sayings, filling in the white all the INFO is still most welcome. Anything else you can help me w/ such as setting up wheels such as Camber and wut nut as tht's ALL STILL a mystery would be great, maybe point me to a good tutorial or two on the subject ?? ... I'm sure I'm going to need it at some point if not soon

    So w/ that point said and done, Thanks again Gents and sorry for the long winded writ but that's what ya gets when I gets in the silly [​IMG]

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    Fifth scales are a labor of love and the Baja trumps them all since it is the lightest and because of that the weakest.  I would suggest buying everything you can in RPM.  You may loose some rigidity because of the softer plastic, but the means outweigh the loss in my mind.  For street use I would set up the rear at 0 everything, make sure you have the most tire planted on the ground.  In the front I would suggest around 2-3 degrees toe in to keep her running straight and true and maybe .5-1 degree of camber. 
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    Cool, the numbers look good and they do make sense or at least I do understand them and the reason for them. Does BEG the question though as to what tools I should use or how do I set the angles suggested. Guess it's not so much the numbers I don't understand but seems to be more about how to setup the required numbers and settings? What tools are used to measure those angles? {LMAO} "NO Stupid Questions but a Lot of Inqisi ..." Nope NOT going there  :eek: ;D
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    You are starting to beg for it.  Read completely sir, all will be answered.

    http://www.hpiracing.com/manuals/pdf/10610.pdf
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    Yeah thanks, I remember now I built the entire car without the instructions, pft .. Yes they do show you what parts to add and what parts to wrench to get the angles but then you pretty much have to go on trust from there as it wasn't very apparent how to measure those angles as check, maybe it's there but I've been through that doc so many times and find myself still looking for the answers. And it's all a bit of information overload when all I wanted to know was how the measure the angles and if there are any tools to make the job easier. Looking for tips and tricks from those that have gone before me. But yeah I could have been more clear about what I wanted, thanks anyway
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    Well that does explain yourself more completely.  What you need to find close to the exact angles is one of these.

    http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/89_2049_254_2051/products_id/146657/n/Hudy-1-8-Off-Road-Quick-Camber-Gauge

    Or if you really want it right, I have on of these and love it.
    http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/products/proddesc.php?prod_id=381&kategoria=64
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    Here's a cheap trick for making an angle guage.
    Search google to find an image of a protractor.
    Print it and glue it to a piece of light card board (I've used cereal box).
    Then with a straight edge and xacto knife, cut the angle you need.
    This works great for the camber.
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    Thanks Smittly, that would appeal to the DIY in me ... It's certainly cheap and easy and functional ... Good TIP

    [quote author=sinistercad link=topic=570.msg3734#msg3734 date=1323469274]

    Well that does explain yourself more completely.  What you need to find close to the exact angles is one of these.

    http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/89_2049_254_2051/products_id/146657/n/Hudy-1-8-Off-Road-Quick-Camber-Gauge

    Or if you really want it right, I have on of these and love it.
    http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/products/proddesc.php?prod_id=381&kategoria=64
    [/quote]

    Yeah it took me awhile to get there, sorry for being such a 4-wheel noob {LOL} Let's BLAME the medication which it's probably not too far off the truth  :eek: ;)

    WOW teh second one looks like ONE I WANT, just because I can ...
    ... and who knows it might make me into a CAR/Truck guy just so I can have some excuses to play with the puppy {LOL}

    Later guys
        [shadow=Orange,left]w00d[/shadow]
     

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