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Discussion in 'AP/FPV' started by Pelagic Pilot, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Pelagic Pilot

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    The pro guys who use things like Sony NEX 5n have started using this for live composite out. It takes the HDMI and turns it into something that a FPV Tx can handle. Cheap and small, they have been pulling the case off and can get it down to 25 Grams total weight. This would work with the Replay XD and others...

    http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Universal-Composite-Converter-Standard/dp/B0080KN18K/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1340111833&sr=8-10&keywords=ntsc+to+hdmi+converter
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    Good find.  Just to be sure: This unit can offer the FPV composite out simultaneously while not interfering with the camera's internal 1080P recording to SC card?
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    I looked for a converter before and everything I found was big and $100+.  This looks perfect!  I'll order one today and we'll see how it works.  This was a great find Tyson!

    ...Tiger
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    Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. Here is the thread with some opinions and technical details. I don't know anything other than what is there.

    http://www.aplanding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6106
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    That is a good find Tyson. Now the search is on for a 10cm HDMI-HDMI cable to go between camera and converter...
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    Here you go Mike:
    http://www.showmecables.com/product/HDMI-Male-Solder-Connector-Kit.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=merchant&utm_campaign=1115&gclid=CNGv2NDzqbMCFQmCQgodOUEA5Q

    Just ordered my unit from Amazon.  Not going to worry about the cable until after I see it working and look at it mechanically.  This is just what I needed for my new Replay camera.

    ...Tiger
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    Now I see that Amazon shows no stock.  I think I got in just under the wire.  I found a very long thread about this thing at:

    http://www.multirotorforums.com/showthread.php?4053-Sony-Nex-5n-downlink/page5

    This link is to the middle of the thread so you will want to page in both directions or just go to the start and read from there.  I need to do that in fact.  I only read enough to know it looks like a valuable link for us to follow.

    ...Tiger

    UPDATE:  This unit (below) appears to be the same unit mentioned in the thread as being available from GoodLuckBuy.  I think there may be some issue with it mentioned later in the thread.  Read forward before you buy this one.

    http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Composite-Video-Audio-Converter/dp/B008FO7PQA/ref=pd_sim_e_2

     
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    Haha! Another good find! You guys have WAY too much time on your hands ;)
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    I got my converter yesterday and hope to try it today on the Replay camera if I can find a micro HDMI cable.  So far no luck on that.  If anyone knows where I can buy one locally, please let me know.  I've been looking calling and looking at websites (Staples, BestBuy, Wallmart, etc.) and no luck.  Some places show it, but no stock.

    Amazon shows out of stock on the HDMI converter now, but I noticed on the shipping bag "www.U9LTD.com".  I tried that link and it's dead so I just put U9LTD into Google and came up with an ebay link for the guy.  His ebay store still shows good stock so if you want one, click here:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ViewHD-Universal-HDMI-Composite-AV-Video-Converter-PAL-NTSC-Standard-TVs-/271014996085?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f19c0a875

    ...Tiger
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    Is it a type A (normal big TV kind) to a micro? I have one to hook my phone to my TV, 36" long.
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    wOOd - Good call.  The video/camera store was my first stop this morning.  Good news - They had one!  Bad news - It was 10' long and cost $59.  Doesn't matter, because after seeing it I realized that what I need is a "mini" and not a "micro".  Your Vistek link has a lot of neat stuff at reasonable prices.  I'll hang onto that.  Wish what I needed was a "micro" now, because these guys have one a foot long.  You normally only find these things 3' or longer.  I think I know where I can borrow a mini to test with.  Then, I can take my time and order one from my oem source for about $4.

    Tyson - Thanks for the offer!  I imagine for a phone it would be a micro so it won't work.  I think I've got the mini covered for testing anyway.

    Hopefully, I'll get this box fired up now and report back in a day or so.

    ...Tiger
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    Agreed Vistek do have good prices but unfortunately you might loose any saving getting the product into the US due to higher shipping cost and import duties!?!
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    I could have used a great picture like that before I started my hunt. :)  I looked at the camera and assumed it must be micro.  As soon as I found a micro in the store, I knew it wasn't what I was looking for.  It's really tiny.  Don't know how they get all those wires in there.

    ...Tiger
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    LOL, yeah 'hindsight' is a wonderful thing ... I figure the image will help the next guy who reads this thread ...

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    Also discovered there are actually more than 3 types, those are just the most common

    Quote WiKi

    There are five HDMI connector types. Type A/B are defined in the HDMI 1.0 specification, type C is defined in the HDMI 1.3 specification, and type D/E are defined in the HDMI 1.4 specification. Type ANineteen pins, with bandwidth to support all SDTV, EDTV and HDTV modes.

    Type A: Nineteen pins, with bandwidth to support all SDTV, EDTV and HDTV modes.[4] The plug (male) connector outside dimensions are 13.9 mm × 4.45 mm and the receptacle (female) connector inside dimensions are 14 mm × 4.55 mm.[54] Type A is electrically compatible with single-link DVI-D.[55]Type BThis connector (21.2 mm × 4.45 mm) has 29 pins and can carry six differential pairs instead of three, for use with very high-resolution future displays such as WQUXGA (3,840×2,400).[55][56]

    Type B: Type B is electrically compatible with dual-link DVI-D, but has not yet been used in any products.[55][57] However, the use of the extra three differential pairs is reserved as of 1.3 specification.Type CA Mini connector defined in the HDMI 1.3 specification, it is intended for portable devices.[1][58][59] It is smaller than the type A plug connector (10.42 mm × 2.42 mm) but has the same 19-pin configuration.[58][60] The differences are that all positive signals of the differential pairs are swapped with their corresponding shield, the DDC/CEC Ground is assigned to pin 13 instead of pin 17, the CEC is assigned to pin 14 instead of pin 13, and the reserved pin is 17 instead of pin 14.[61]

    Type C: The type C Mini connector can be connected to a type A connector using a type A-to-type C cable.Type DA Micro connector defined in the HDMI 1.4 specification[59][62] keeps the standard 19 pins of types A and C but shrinks the connector size to something resembling a micro-USB connector.[63]

    Type D: The type D connector is 2.8 mm × 6.4 mm, whereas the type C connector is 2.42 mm × 10.42 mm.[64] For comparison, a micro-USB connector is 1.8 mm × 6.85 mm and a USB Type A connector is 4.5 mm × 11.5 mm. The pin assignment is different from Type A or CType E

    Type E: Automotive Connection System defined in HDMI 1.4 specification.[65] The connector has a locking tab to keep the cable from vibrating loose, and a shell to help prevent moisture and dirt. A relay connector is available for connecting standard consumer cables to the automotive type.[66]


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    Just for future reference,  might be useful to some ... The HDMI Pinout

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    Chinese children have very small hands ;)

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