First DSLR 4K video from prototype Canon EOS-1D C reportedly emerges. Read more and see photos and video via the source link. Source: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/01/first-dslr-4k-video-from-prototype-canon-eos-1d-c/
Yup it's really great, having these hi-resolution and wide gamut devices abound ... ... What is unfortunate that most don't have displays that can display such images and many are NOT willing to pay the $5,000 plus premium these 4K devices would demand. Not forgetting most outside of the professional arena don't have the skill set to even use their Point'n Shoot to it's full potential. For most the money would be better spent on photography/video lessons over new camera hardware. Yet after dropping near $2000 + on a NEW Nikon/Canon DSLR we STILL have people that wonder why their pictures look NO better than they did with their old Point'n Shoot! Now if I had me 4K Monitor I could even view to it's max what my current camera is capable off. ... Sad to say NO $100 Monitor from K-Mart is up to this task which would have to include my own monitor(s) Yup this 4K Camera from Canon will also need a NEW Monitor, otherwise what would be the point ----> http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/viewsonic-vp3280-led-4k-monitor-hands-on/ / END Rant [acronym=EYE See! VOICE of the O.pin.ion.at.ed. LINK will go to my PhotoBucket RSS] [shadow=grey,left][size=0.9em]w[/size][size=1.2em]00[/size][size=0.9em]d[/size][/shadow][/acronym] [hr]
I'd hold off on the new monitor As you know I am a huge fan of Canon. That being said, I am a huge fan of Canon DSLR's for taking photographs. Anyone trying to combine formats and expecting to get great results for both photos AND videos is going to be disappointed. You want to take photos, buy a good camera. You want to take videos, buy a good camcorder. Period! If you read the reviews at the link you provided you'll see that most are negative with respect to Canon's departure from world-class DSLR's in favor of multi-tasking their products to (hopefully) appeal to a broader market. What they really end up doing (IMHO) is epically failing in a misguided marketing ploy, and more importantly, neglecting loyal fans who have supported them for decades - myself among them - just to put out a substandard "high-end" product :-[ My Canon 5D Mk-II has the ability to take full HD 1080p videos, and I am sure I would be happy with the result - let's face it, I'm no professional But I will never use it for that, I bought it as a camera. I have been looking for a NICE full-HD camcorder to compliment it for several years (have yet to find one I REALLY like). So, no videos. [/rant]
No, I'm NOT really saying that! What I am saying or more or less implying is MOST people and their Monitors are NOT capable of reproducing the Wide Gamut of colours which our cameras are currently capable of producing If you are serious about the images you produce and it would be assumed you are if you owned the EOS-1D C but if you need or want to reproduce ALL the colours our camera's currently have to offer we should also have a Wide Gamut Monitor which will (well near enough to) reproduce teh missing colours Also Hi-end Monitors by design don't come cheap and the Monitor I pointed to is an extreme example of the money they want. They start near about $5,000 and up which pretty much relegates them a "Pro" choice or for DEEP thinker's (Pixel-Peeper's, by the way this is good reading) and DEEP pockets {LOL} Least we forget the hidden cost of these Hi-end Viewer's, they are most certain to need some Hi-end pixel-pushers, GPU (Graphics Cards) and CPU's to run effectively or at their best ... And here again I point to my link as an example of the processing power they can demand [hr] EDIT: July 09, 2012, First a 'DISCLAIMER' of sorts - Presented we have a number of items gleaned from my NOTES related to colour and our monitors. Where a few items may seem out of context as they were collected for my benefit thus it would be I who would have to remember in which context they actually belong. Also the actual source(s) I never noted so it should be assumed I didn't write them. Nevertheless the information is obviously more technical in nature but might offer a way to work within the limitations of the monitor currently on our desk. Also the information would imply a somewhat more advanced knowledge which would be assumed by owning an advanced camera such as the EOS-1D C. Also in NO way is the information presented complete and thus in many ways is NOT the complete picture, if you would pardon the pun ... FYI: LCD Monitors. Ensuring an overall display gamma of 2.2 often requires substantial corrections, and they are also much less consistent than CRT's. LCDs therefore require something called a look-up table (LUT) in order to ensure that input values are depicted using the intended display gamma (amongst other things). Therefore ensuring the need for 'calibration' sRGB is derived from HDTV standards, so nearly all CRT and LCD displays can reasonably produce sRGB if properly calibrated. Even uncalibrated, such devices often produce adequate results Adobe RGB (1998): One issue with a gamut this large is it is larger than the gamut of nearly all displays color from images in sRGB. You might be editing colors you can’t see. This fact is true of all working spaces that exceed a display gamut. You are probably working within the gamut restrictions of sRGB when viewing your images You need to be aware of the working space gamut, the scene gamut, as well as the gamut of any output device you may use Using a significantly larger gamut working space than the image or output device provides no benefit, but at least you have all the original colors at your disposal Think of this mismatch between the two color spaces as trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. In order to accommodate the square peg, the round hole has to be much larger in diameter than it otherwise would be. It is often necessary to define a very large gamut RGB working space with a great deal of distance between the primaries to fit a smaller, but dissimilarly shaped, output space. ProPhoto RGB has a very large gamut by design, and while many of the defined colors can neither be seen nor reproduced, the overall size (the round hole) is necessary to contain colors that will be converted to an output space (the square peg) Conclusion: It should be clear that a very large gamut working space isn’t automatically the best option for all situations or something you can “set and forget.” Related thread, discussing 'Colour Spaces' and from when I first looked at these questions ... ... hehe, it's from the time'n place where I knew NOTHING about these issues More INFO - Tutorials Let's CLOSE w/ A Parable, LMAO [hr]
I was just kidding. It will be a while before 4K resolution monitors get to reasonable prices especially in the down television market. And when they do get to reasonable prices we'll all want those nifty new 8K resolution jobs. ;D
I think all the calibrated photography monitors are too expensive. They make a device that sticks on the front of your monitor that can see the colors and make some corrections. That might be a less expensive solution or a intermediate solution and then you could still use that device on the professional monitor when you get one. I would have no good use for a calibrated color monitor at this time, but of course a lottery win might change all that.
'Monitor Calibration' is ONLY the first step and NO monitor regardless of how much it costs come calibrated, there's just too many variables that need to be considered. Also monitor calibration has nothing to do with the amount of colours a display is capable of displaying. Calibrated or not cheap monitors have a finite number and limited number of colours it is able to display. The more expensive or professional monitor is capable of displaying more colours and no device nor software can make a monitor display more colours than what is determined by the displays hardware Nevertheless 'Calibration' can be done by hand which is by far the cheapest method and probably is suitable for most users but best results (as you say) are with a 'Display Calibration' device. The image shows the one I'm currently using and it comes from 'Datacolor'. My version is their 'Spyder 3 Express' but now their entry level model is currently teh 'Spyder 4 Express' and it does the JOB. Although I can't say this is a recommendation despite the fact it does a great job A recommendation would have to be based on a number of personal choices I would only be guessing at ... Anywayz just showing off wut I gots ... [acronym=EYE See! VOICE of the O.pin.ion.at.ed. LINK will go to my PhotoBucket RSS] [shadow=grey,left][size=0.9em]w[/size][size=1.2em]00[/size][size=0.9em]d[/size][/shadow][/acronym] [hr] Spyder 3 Express [hr]
That looks different than the ones I saw back in the CRT days. Back then the one I saw was a suction cup that stuck directly to the screen face.
Mine does both CRTs and LED/LCD's but I removed the suction cup because it's generally not needed when calibrating LED/LCD screens
Ok since I've flogged my point into death, better I found a LINK relevant to this NEW 4K Hybrid from Canon itself ... I think this touches more on the point Golden Child made IMO: I think it WILL be the market place that will ultimately determine the success of the 'Hybrid' concept, Still and Video Hybrid's or Separate !?! I think Canon is simply trying to fill a market niche, either perceived or real it will be the 'money' that does teh voting! And as always with 'these' corporations it's never really about the products but more about making MONEY or HOW best to GET the money OUT of our pockets [acronym=EYE See! VOICE of the O.pin.ion.at.ed. LINK will go to my PhotoBucket RSS] [shadow=grey,left][size=0.9em]w[/size][size=1.2em]00[/size][size=0.9em]d[/size][/shadow][/acronym] [hr] [size=1.2em]Making sense of the Canon Cinema 1D 4K DSLR from a film industry perspective[/size] "This camera is a departure for Canon because it is 100% a tool for industry. It isn’t really aimed at the lone professional, freelancer or pro photographer. At $15,000 the Canon 4K DSLR is a b-camera to the Canon C300 on set which fits in a tighter space and offers the option for 1080/60p slow mo and cropping into a 4K image (giving the ability to re-frame in post). As a stand-alone camera it offers a very future proof 4K recording format from an APS-H crop and it is also a professional full frame stills camera" ... continued [hr]
